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FAQ: "To say that there is no god, it takes as much faith to believe in one."

Transforming the charge in question (since this is a FAQ): we are not omniscient, we can not afford to look at the entire universe. How can we say with certainty that there is a god in the universe, without resorting to faith - that is, belief without evidence to support it?

In a way, the answer depends on what you mean by "god." Are you referring to "that" particular god, or "any" god, indefinitely?

Considering the language in this blog is written and my geographic location, it is likely that when you refer to "god" like to say Judeo-Christian God, Yahweh, as described in the Bible. If so, I can answer that easily, you need faith to say that Odin does not exist?

Definitely not. You do not have any reason to believe in Odin, or you see no evidence of its existence. Moreover, Odin and other Norse gods are clearly anthropomorphic, that is, they look exactly like humans, but "bigger" and more powerful. Have the same emotions, desires and personality types than humans. It is safe to say they were invented by the ancient Vikings.

The point is that all that adapts to your god, too! How is Yahweh is portrayed with a thoroughly human personality - and with the various human flaws, too, like jealousy, "tantrums" and "embirrações" with perfectly harmless things, such as certain types of food, or acts that harm no one . Not to mention the fact that only can "forgive" humanity after a blood sacrifice - once again demonstrating a morality and desires quite primitive and barbaric, but very common in early history. The obvious explanation is that early humans transposed their primitive desires for a god who invented. And Jesus Christ is a cluster of myths existing at the time (Mithras, etc..), Which had virtually indistinguishable stories (born of a virgin, died and resurrected after 3 days, etc.)..

In addition, there are many logical arguments against the existence of an entity omnipotent, omniscient and "good" as the Judeo-Christian God. For example, the paradox of omnipotence (Can God create a stone so heavy that it can not lift it?), Or the problem of evil (if God is all powerful and good, how is there so much evil in the world, including much not the fault of humanity and can not be excused with "free will", such as natural disasters that kill thousands of children). The first is logically self-contradictory, the second an apology so labyrinthine and "ragged" the thing that quickly becomes ridiculous (I suggest this link to explore these excuses, and responses to them).

But may not have meant a god like that. Perhaps you refiras to something quite different from everything that has been worshiped by man: a vast cosmic being who did not create the universe, but is the universe. A being who, not having been invented by humans, has no human characteristics at all (frankly, demand to be worshiped? Jealous? Obsessed with our sexuality? How can anyone believe that?), For whom neither human nor insignificant our planet are the center of the universe and why there is the same, probably even being conscious, is not even aware of the existence of our planet, and that is not concerned with trivialities (in the cosmic sense) as "prayer," "sin "or" life after death. "

That deity (see details here ), if it existed, would be completely undetectable by us, would not interfere in any way in our lives, or be concerned with us. In every way possible (except in science: it would be fascinating to discover and study such a being), it is as if this "god" does not exist: nothing we can do to affect in any way. Turns out to be equivalent to questions like "do we live in a perfect simulation": if the simulation is perfect, it is undistinguishable and undetectable, and somewhat irrelevant to our lives, because they do not affect or alter (although that there is nothing wrong with being curious).

In both cases described above, there is something definitive against the position that "it takes faith to say that something does not exist": the burden of proof . This is always on the side of those who claim that something exists, and it is he who must prove the existence of something. If not, then the logical position is to say that the statement is false, and you do not have any "faith" for it.

(Note: please restrict any comment that you make to the previous question and answer, and not to other matters as the existence or nonexistence of God. Thank you.)

Possibly related posts:

  1. FAQ: "How can you be an atheist? You can not prove that God does not exist! "
  2. FAQ: "I do not care all your arguments, believing in God makes me feel good, so I believe!"
  3. FAQ: "Is not it better to believe, just in case? After all, if I'm wrong, do not lose much, but if you're wrong ... "
  4. FAQ: "The atheism / materialism does not explain the love / friendship / good and evil / poetry / beauty / irrational numbers in mathematics / <another abstracto> example of human concept, then they are wrong / God exists!"
  5. FAQ: "Without God / religion / the Bible, how can there be morality?"

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